What better way to cap off a really immeasurably frightening week than with the first episode of Jezebel’s new politics podcast Big Time Dicks?
“We are going to lose right now,” Hogue says in the interview. “And if we lose and take our marbles home and decide we can’t make change, we fall prey to a trap that really does play into the idea that party politics is the only vector for change.”
“When one area of potential change contracts, others open. Politics is usually the most risk-averse to change, so that doesn’t mean we stop fighting… but it does mean we need to think about other opportunities to exert our influence.”
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